The GUS Daily Digest Thursday, 1 June 1995 Volume 22 : Number 030 Today's Topics: ACE capabilities? Re: Resonant filters anyone? Patches in Win, Mitsumi, resonant filters, interwave, CL tests, 3d Re: Win95+GUS=WORKS!! Windows 95 FAQ Geluid onder linuxdoom?? [none] Re: General User Satisfaction (Digest #22-23) 3Dsound! (sort of) and other things. Bye people! ACE NEC 3XI bundle for interested Gussers. . . MicroProses coming F1GP II Sierra's Incredible Machine 2 line in Midi files/software archives on the Internet Computer Music bibliography SB&GUS is the ultimate solution. Wanted: GUS (fwd) RE: Resonant filters anyone? Programs on Ultrasound Exp. CD Old GUS 16-bit recording upgrade? Newest Megaem and MC :-) Good news! Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gavin Scarman Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:34:13 +1030 Subject: ACE capabilities? 'Scuse my ignorance but exactly what are the ACE's capabilities. Particularly, what is different to the standard GUS. ie. can I still use it for things like demos (eg. Second Reality), MOD/S3M/669/etc @ 44KHz/16bits interpololated ? ------------------------------ From: "VISX80::GRECNER" Date: 31 May 95 10:23:00 MET Subject: Re: Resonant filters anyone? >Might as well join the 'what special effect does this do' bandwagon. :) >Anyone know what resonant filters are and how it would help improve the >sound quality of a wave table sound card. I keep on hearing things that >a hot sound card should have filters... Resonant filters are filters with a very narrow zone of gain at the cutoff frequency. It's bound to the so called filter quality (or simply Q), which is a term taken from analog circuits terminology. By adjusting this parameter you can change the way the filter sounds. Now if you can modulate the cutoff frequency and/or the Q by some MIDI controller or LFO or an envelope, you can achieve some very analog sounding sounds amulating the old moogs and all that analog stuff. And this is basically what are filters and especially resonant filters good for: to do a subtractive synthesis in order to emulate analog synths. If you just want to have sounds of natural sampled instruments, the filter is of almost no use to you. The EMU8000 on AWE32 has resonant filters built in, and it's probably the only sound card for the PC with resonant filters and sample RAM. GUS has no filters at all, and TurtleBeach cards like RIO or MAUI have only nonresonant filters. I'm not sure about the cards with the Ensoniq or Korg chipsets or bout the OPL-4, but all those cards have no RAM samples, so who cares... >Anyone knows if the InterWave chip has this capability? No idea, but I guess no. Martin Grecner ------------------------------ From: Quentinus Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:30:07 +0100 (BST) Subject: Patches in Win, Mitsumi, resonant filters, interwave, CL tests, 3d > 1. How can I use my own-creates patches under Windows. I don't want to edit > the CFG and INI files, just easy and quickly play&compose with my patches. Use Bank Manager. See the help file for more info. If you don't have it, get the latest software update. > 3. I have found two programs to read the audio info from a simple audio CD. > I've got a Mitsumi FX001D cd-rom, and the it couldn't read the data from > the audio cd. After the error messages I read the readme file and it wrote Mitsumi drives have direct audio read disabled. Never, ever, ever buy a Mitsumi drive. (bit late now, but you can bear in mind when you upgrade...) > If you answer me please send the letter on my own part too. Not just here. Can't be bothered; I read this in digest form not list, so... > Anyone know what resonant filters are and how it would help improve the > sound quality of a wave table sound card. I keep on hearing things that > a hot sound card should have filters... Resonant filters let the soundcard imitate "squelchy" analogue 303-style sounds. Frequencies near the cut-off point "resonate" - i.e. get louder. You know the way if you listen to a techno track, sometimes the bassline just repeats the same notes but gradually changes the way it sounds, that's someone changing the filter setting. > I everybody! I just joined the digest so I'm alittle behind on what's > going on. I've been hearing a lot about something called an Inerwave? > What is it? It sounds pretty cool. |From: joakim@mindspring.com (Joakim Erdfelt) | | for those of you that are curious. the Interwave press release is | available via WWW at... | | http://www.amd.com/html/products/prodpr/9540.html hope this helps. (And thanks, Joakim for posting it the first time). > which they have setup. CL claims that it will thoroughly test any software > in developement given to them to see if it's compatible with the SB range. > This includes using different a I/O, IRQ, DMA, etc. and different machine > confiurations. This is exactly the kind of support that Gravis needs to be Not so necessary for GUS; GUS cards are broadly compatible with each other, unlike the Creative Labs range (where it's possible to have things working on an SB original but not on a 2.0, or vice versa, I forget). > BTW, what ever happened to the 3D sound capabilities of the GUS which Gravis > promised would bring us a new dimension in gaming? "Whatever happened" is that their license to use it ran out! ;) Before anyone had done any software for it... Sam [] http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <[ Web pagE ]> *NEW* Sysex Manager ! [] [] For Software Forge program information and downloads [] Including [] [] NETRIS 1.1 best Tetris game <[ For Win 3.1 ]> Sysex Manager 1.0S [] ------------------------------ From: Clarke Brunt Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:59:08 BST Subject: Re: Win95+GUS=WORKS!! two posts yesterday saying that GUS+Win95 works... >It worked for me as well, but anytime I was trying to use the MIDI in port, >it hung. There must be some IRQ problem that I can't fix. Did you try >the MIDI port as well ? I tried the MIDI port, both in and out, and it all works. The MIDI port had me worried, as I heard rumours of it not working. I don't know what the answer is if it doesn't for you. I'm using the 3.59 GUS disk set. Does anyone know how Win95 handles MIDI Mapping? There doesn't seem to be anything like the old MIDI Mapper, which whilst complicated was very versatile. >- -tried the GUS software, and Bango! Wav works, and Midi files play fine. >I dunno, folks: am I missing something here?? Seems to me that GUS support is >already in there! What is it that is _not_ being supported here...? Someone else here who may well not have tried the MIDI port. The problem is that proper drivers aren't supplied with Win95, like they are for loads of other cards. You have to use the old Win 3.1 drivers. Clearly it doesn't work first time for everyone - it didn't for me. All I could get was 'error in GRVSULTR.386' every time I booted. Solution was to remove all trace of GUS drivers from SYSTEM.INI, reboot, then do Add New Hardware/Soundcard/Have disk... and point it at \ultrasnd\windows where the drivers and the oemsetup.inf file live. Repeat the process for the two drivers (synth and MIDI port), ignoring any errors that come up on the way. Then maybe add mixer=ultrasnd.drv to SYSTEM.INI to allow the MicroSoft mixer to work. ------------------------------ From: "S.D.Cady" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:01:24 +0100 (BST) Subject: Windows 95 FAQ My question is this, is there an Ultrasound / Windows 95 faq available. At the moment I've got the Windows side of things running nicely with the GUS but I'm having great problems trying to get games/dos based products to work. I know that Windows 95 is still in the final beta stage, and I know that the GUS isn't supported (yet!!), and that Gravis is under no obligation to produce drivers until the final version is out (whenever that might be) but surely someone could produce an faq describing their experiences. Once the final product is released then these questions will still be asked... When I purchased my GUS about two years ago (I've got a v.early card) the box promised '100% soundblaster compatibility' and I've been regretting it ever since. Surely Gravis should be supporting this claim, and providing the same type of software support as Creative Arts are for Windows 95. If Creative Arts can do it then why can't Gravis. Steve (-8* ------------------------------ From: "Arnout Boer" Date: 31 May 95 14:03:03 MET Subject: Geluid onder linuxdoom?? Has anybody yet got a sound with the GUS max and linuxdoom...... I have of course compiled GUS max support in the kernel but.... no sound at all..... And btw, we have with linux a great mod/mtm/s3m player for the gus called gmod... but I never heard anything about a midi player for the gus onder linux???? Any sugestions throught the list or by mail would be appreciated! Arnout Groetjes, Arnout ---------------------------------------------------------- College isn't the place to go for ideas. --- Hellen Keller ----------------------------------------------------------- Arnout Boer (e-mail: a.h.a.m.boer@kub.nl) ------------------------------ From: Chronologically sick and abused and happy Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] > BTW, what ever happened to the 3D sound capabilities of the GUS which > Gravis promised would bring us a new dimension in gaming? Adrian It's quite likely that the information you seek is in the README.TXT for both the full-blown OS/2 drivers, and the NT drivers.... ------------------------------ From: "Mariusz Studzinski" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:39:53 +0100 Subject: Re: General User Satisfaction (Digest #22-23) > Received: from ping1.ping.be (ping1.ping.be [193.74.114.1]) by gaia.ucs.orst.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA17203 for ; Fri, 26 May 1995 18:21:02 -0700 > Received: from subnormal (dialup23.brussels.eunet.be [193.74.4.23]) by ping1.ping.be (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA08387 for ; Sat, 27 May 1995 03:19:58 +0200 > Message-Id: <199505270119.DAA08387@ping1.ping.be> > Comments: Authenticated sender is > From: "Moebius" > Organization: SuB_NoRMaL$ > To: gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu > Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 03:03:35 +1 > Subject: Re: General User Satisfaction (Digest #22-23) > Reply-to: olivier.bonemme@ping.be > Priority: normal > X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.0-WB3) > Sender: owner-gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu > Precedence: bulk > > Origin has confirmed they'll support the GUS in Future...their > lastes games which hasn't the gus driver was System Shock but only because > it was the AILS Driver were not ready ...but now it is fixed now SShock > runs fine with the AIL3.10 and I can tellyou it sounds really good > ....because I had listen to The AWE and WaveBlaster Version..No > comparaision ... The Gus is still on the Top !. > The only companies I want to blame for their lacks of Support it is > those stupid Frenchs companies who were thinking there is only one > sound card on the PC Market ! (hmmm I think it is a general problem > with those french people..They are always thinking they are best in > the world ;-) ). > Oh I forgot Vigirn in fact is not too bad too....They support > support Gravis in their demo and not in the final release ! > (SuperKart !) ....Lucas Arts it is the opposite ....They don't > support it in the demo version ...but in the final version the gus is > there !...is there a Creative Labs Conspiration ?..... > > Olivier I know what you mean! Does anybody know the e-mail address to CRYO (or VIRGIN)? I want to write to them and demand the GUS support in their games. What's the point in spending more than a year on the game like Lost Eden and then make it only SB comapatible? I can't understand this. ------------------------------ From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:09:59 GMT Subject: 3Dsound! (sort of) and other things. > "The 486 is RISC based!!!!" - someone I know... :) > I dunno, folks: am I missing something here?? Seems to me that GUS support is > already in there! What is it that is _not_ being supported here...? Well, try running games in DOS VMs. Some work, some don't. I think it's because win95 and/or the Gus drivers won't allow DMA accesses in a VM. But The Lion King runs fine in a window. That's why we (or at least I) want a native win95/NT driver. > Hello, can anyone quickly tell me what programs are on the UltraSound > Experience CD. I want to upgrade my old PowerChords (that came > with disk set 2.06), but I'm not sure if the Debut version is on the CD > or not. If not, I'll just upgrade via Howling Dog. Well PowerChords isn't there, just a demo of it. > BTW, what ever happened to the 3D sound capabilities of the GUS which Gravis > promised would bring us a new dimension in gaming? Well, as far as I know, the 3D capabilites aren't hardware on the GUS, but are implemented in the software, which is licensed from some other company. Gravis' license ran out and they didn't renew it (AFAIK) so 3D sound works in Doom, and other games that use it, but new stuff probably won't have it. :( Matt - -- +-----------------------------------------------+------------------------------+ |Too young to read the fury in his uncle's eyes | * RAD HOST (Lion King) | |Simba tells Scar all he has learned that day - | * Ask me anything Lion King | | how he, not Scar, will become the Lion King. | related. | | | * FDCMuck Chaka! | | Sly Scar exacts a promise from the cub, | * TLKMuck Chaka too! :) | | a pledge that Simba will never venture near | * X-phile | |the forbidden place where elephants go to die. | * GUS user | +-The Art of the Lion King----------------------+---Matt@machine.demon.co.uk---+ ------------------------------ From: "Ignatius Tam (Mr. Tam)" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Bye people! Hi guys, Just to let you guys know I'll be back to HK for good and I'll not have Internet access for some time, so my digest home page will not be updated until it's dead. Thanks for Adrian who continues my work, once again his page is: http://www.student.adelaide.edu.au/~godfathr/gus/gus.html. I still own a GUS, so I'll be back really soon. c'ya! - -iGnatius - -- @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ | /\ /\ MarToPigGus!!(tm) YoUr DreaMing piGG meaT iS heRe! | | / -- \ conTaCT yOur lOCal deALeR!! __iGnatius tAm___ | | | . . u| e-mail: tam@cs.ualberta.ca / itam@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca | | | __ | personal homepage: http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~tam | | | < .. > | GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html | | \______/ phone: 403-433-3187 | @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ ------------------------------ From: mnovak@i-link.net (Mark Novak) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:56:49 -0500 Subject: ACE I'm using a SB 16 Mutil CD and a new ACE card. Both seem to be working fine with the exception of YES...the joystick problem. It seems to be detected, however in some games such as NASCAR CD I can't get the joystick to stop jumping around. After endless attempts to re-calibrate...I gave up. Has anybodt else had this problem. ------------------------------ From: TAGRAY@ualr.edu Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 13:25:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: NEC 3XI bundle for interested Gussers. . . Good day fellow Gussers. . . I'm looking for serious buyers for my NEC 3XI bundle which includes 15 caddies (around $7-$8 a piece mail order), OS/2 WARP on cd (around $65-$70 mail order), and as a bonus X-WING, Imperial Pursuit, and B-WING on 3.5" disks (around $30, $15, and $15 mail order, repsectively), since I now have the cd. The asking price for the NEC 3XI bundle is: $350 -- I'll pay for 2nd day UPS with ground tracking, insurance, and packaging. OR $325 -- The prospective buyer pays shipping, ground tracking; I'll pay packaging All hardware and software are in excellent condition and contain all original packaging and documentation (minus the caddies' packaging). The NEC 3XI has served me well for 10 months and also works well with my AdaptecSCSI controller, GUS MAX rev. 1.7 with 1Mb ram, DOS 6.22, WIN for WGPS 3.11, WIN '95 Final Beta Release and OS/2 WARP (both of which auto-detect the NEC 3XI just fine when connected to a supported SCSI controller i. e. Adaptec). Again, I'm looking for serious buyers please. I would like to help out a fellowGusser, as I'm now in the market for a NEC 6XI for cd graphics and DOS 4/GW protected mode cd games. I'll be happy to set up a 30 day trial period and refund provided that the hardware and software are packaged and received in the same condition as I wouldship them, along with ground tracking. Overseas interested buyers, I can work out an arrangement since the above $350 quote was good for the continental 48 states. Thanks in advance for your interest ;) Andy Gray E-MAIL address: TAGRAY@athena.ualr.edu Proud Gusser with rev. 1.7 GUS MAX with 1Mb ram running 4.11 and PMODE MegaEm Eagle Scout Class of '87 3rd year Graphic Design student with medical illustration emphasis ------------------------------ From: Marko Ovaska Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:35:18 +0300 (EET DST) Subject: MicroProses coming F1GP II MicroProse will release new version of F1GP next autumn. I'm quite a fan of F1GP, thou it is a bit oldish with adlib and roland support. I have read there has not been good (if any) drivers for gus in X-Com (or UFO, Enemy unknown in Europe), and that the second X-Com didn't manage any better. Should it be time to continue battle for GUS and remind MicroProse of existence of Gravis Ultrasound? Anyhow, MicroProse can be contacted by email at address 76004.2223@compuserve.com. I have already asked, worried of cource, that will the shortly coming game support one of the best wavetable based cards on market. Their answer was not very promising, support caimed that it is not know whether F1GP will support the gravis. A few more polite woes for gus would gain good quality sound for final product... Marko ------------------------------ From: schumgl@anubis.network.com (Gary L. Schumacher) Date: Wed, 31 May 95 16:09:37 CDT Subject: Sierra's Incredible Machine 2 Does anybody have any tried to get Sierra's Incredible Machine 2 working with the GUS? I have tried sbos and will now start with gusdrv.exe, gus32.exe and MegaEM. Any help would be GREAT!!! Thanks Gary ------------------------------ From: Broderdue Date: Wed, 31 May 95 23:46:25 METDST Subject: line in Noticed a program I've never used; ultramix.exe. Use this at the end of your autoexec.bat to set line, mic and output to enable. Just toy around with it using the -h switch. Later... - -- \//// |. .| ( - ) Broderdue - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Piet van Oostrum Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:11:15 +0200 Subject: Midi files/software archives on the Internet There is a list of ftp and mail server archives with MIDI documentation, programs and music on the Internet. Also enclosed is a list of MIDI and electronic music related mailing lists. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/archives or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/archives. Version: $Id: archives,v 1.125 1995/05/30 13:46:06 piet Exp $ ------------------------------ From: Piet van Oostrum Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:11:16 +0200 Subject: Computer Music bibliography There is a bibliography on synthesizers, midi, computer and electronic music that I have collected from various sources. I have tried to bring some structure into it, but not all books will fit into a single subject. NOTE: I haven't read these books, and the comments are from other people. The latest version of this file can be obtained by ftp from ftp.cs.ruu.nl [131.211.80.17] in pub/MIDI/DOC/bibliography or by mail from mail-server@cs.ruu.nl (send a message with HELP in the body). From the mail-server the filename without pub/ should be used. The latest monthly version is also available in the various news.answers archives around the world, in music/midi/bibliography. Version: $Id: bibliography,v 1.34 1995/05/23 14:14:27 piet Exp $ ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 23:16:29 +0100 Subject: SB&GUS is the ultimate solution. The GUS is just great, !but! it ain't supported by all games. So what you do is: get pissed and complain in this digest. It sucks. Let's just face it: It'll take *many* months before GUS has become a standard like the SB. SO the ultimate solution is to combine the GUS with a SB. I've just bought meself a SB, and together with the GUS..... It's like heaven. EVerything is just great. Themepark...MAgic Carpet..... and so on.... I'd strongly suggest that you all stop complaining and buy yerself a Sound bastard instead. It's well spent money, and it wont cost more than a few crappy dollars too. But never sell the GUS. That's a religious crime, and will probably give you The Chair if you live in Oklahoma(ain't that right?). EmilR, Norway. "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: csjohn@isdnlin.mtsu.edu (John Wallace) Date: Wed, 31 May 95 19:08 CDT Subject: Wanted: GUS (fwd) >Path: isdnlin.mtsu.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.tulane.edu!tulane!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail >From: wdorman@sprite.gremlan.org (Will Dormann) >Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.audio >Subject: Wanted: GUS >Date: 29 May 1995 14:14:30 -0500 >Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway >Lines: 14 >Sender: nobody@cs.utexas.edu >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: news.cs.utexas.edu Wanted to buy: Gravis Ultrasound card. If you have one, please tell me it's revision number, onboard RAM, and how much you are asking for it. Thanks! Please reply via E-Mail Will Dormann wdorman@sprite.gremlan.org ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RE: Resonant filters anyone? From: CHRIS M PIPER - -- [ From: Chris Piper * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- >Might as well join the 'what special effect does this do' bandwagon. : ) Anyone >know what resonant filters are and how it would help improve the sound quality >of a wave table sound card. I keep on hearing things that a hot sound card >should have filters... > >Anyone knows if the InterWave chip has this capability? Well, I don't think the InterWave chip has one, but that type of feature would probably be built into the sound card outside the chip. A filter is much easier (and sounds much cleaner) to create with analog devices than digital. Everyone has all these notions that digital is best, but sound is analog, therefore, processing (such as filters) it is done best with analog. - --- Fuzzy @:-) ------------------------------ From: Malhavok@aol.com Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:20:20 -0400 Subject: Programs on Ultrasound Exp. CD Programs on the Ultrasound Experience CD are Goldwave (great shareware .WAV editor), 2PATS, the GUS 3.57 software, various .mod players, and game demos. I got it for $5.00 at the local Software Etc. and it is excellent. Get it if for no other reason than the 500kb piano patch that comes with it! I can't recommend the US Experience CD enough! Give it to your friends with SoundBlasters ;> I have the 3.53 software and it definately included Powerchords, so I assume 3.57 will have it also, though I don't know which version. Mal ------------------------------ From: David Mitchell Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 12:22:41 +1000 Subject: Old GUS 16-bit recording upgrade? Is it still possible to buy the GUS 16-bit recording upgrade? If so, has anyone got pricing from Gravis? Thanks Dave Mitchell ------------------------------ From: Greg Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 01:15:39 EDT Subject: Newest Megaem and MC :-) I just downloaded the newest Beta version of Megaem. It works great with Magic Carpet. Other improvements have also been made. It may even work with the CD version of Sam and Max. ------------------------------ From: mark.leung@cyberstore.ca (Mark Leung) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 06:09:55 GMT Subject: Good news! ---------------------------------------------- !!The new beta version of MegaEm 3.04 is out!! ---------------------------------------------- I've downloaded a copy from Gravis BBS today... (Local # for me!) :) VERSION 3.04b (Beta) * Fixed a bug in protected mode Roland emulation which was preventing certain LucasArts products from working properly. * Improved DOS4GW auto-patching. * Fixed a bug in the Sound Blaster emulation. Now Magic Carpet and other games work better. * Added check to make sure emulation is working correctly to catch any hardware conflicts. * Added -L (enable line in) and -M (enable mic in) for people who don't have Ultramix. * Fixed a bug in the UltraMID emulation which caused some applications to crash when playing back 8 bit samples. * Fixed some small bugs in BUILDPATS. * SBOS and old versions of Mega-Em can no longer be run with Mega-Em loaded. * Volume controls now work properly. 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